Re: [-empyre-] reception

[marcus bastos <bastos.marcus@gmail.com>]

Christine,

when I asked Friedrich about reading rules, I had in mind some
experimental poems, mostly non-verbal, that have footnoted
"dictionaries", where it´s possible to learn the meaning of the visual
shapes used to "write" the text. I did not have in mind a broader set
of "rules", a general "grammar" that could be applied to other texts
than his project.

anyway, you have a good point, but is it really possible to think of
cultural shifts without considering that history is possibly
eliptical, not really evolutive, and certainly not substitutive but
cumulative? Is our new writing / reading condition really restricted
to kids? Couldn´t we think of groups like kids that have access to
computers, kids that does not have access to computers, adults that
stay all day in front of a monitor, adults that uses computers only on
the weekend, and so on?


On 10/23/05, Christine Goldbeck <cgoldie@verizon.net> wrote:
> Hi Everyone:
>
> Reading rules: Reading rules? What rules rule reading?
>
> It is interesting to watch my teenager and her friends, work associatively,
> through hypertext and GET IT (as they say). What is more interesting is to
> place a Dickens bound volume in front of them and hear them groan. Give them
> a Dickens version with graphics and hypertext and you get: "Cool." Hmmm...
>
> Kids are not reading strictly by the methods we learned. They have their own
> set of rules and many seem to like the open-ended exploration.
>
> Meanwhile, those of us raised with the cultural constructs of linear
> reading, left to right, line per line, page by page, feel that our rules
> have been violated! Annihilated!
>
> So, we're operating under different rules (which is cause for concern,
> especially in education wherein the bureaucrats are measuring by traditional
> methodologies) and receiving/reacting to digital texts as per our personal
> generational and educational demographics.
>
> In a sense, the cultural sense I reckon, it's really no different than when
> my father, in the late 70s, had a conniption fit over my choice of music as
> compared to his beloved tunes (now called classic rock) ... I know folks who
> listen to eight-tracks and enjoy them and I know many who cannot live
> without their IPODs.
>
> So, what does it mean for digital writing, for blogs, for hyperfiction, etc
> ...
> For practitioners of these arts, I believe it means that evolution takes
> time. I also believe that we can practice our theories by still being kind
> to those just diving in to the digital world.
>
> Sincerely,
> Christine
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "marcus bastos" <bastos.marcus@gmail.com>
> To: "soft_skinned_space" <empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 9:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [-empyre-] reception
>
>
> can I ask something first? Is there any kind of reading rules the user
> should be aware of, before navigating? (e.g. Pignatari´s semiotic
> poems have a 'reading key' that changes comprehension of the work; Jim
> Rosenberg´s intergrams also have rules indicating the relationship of
> one diagram to the other)
>
> I am asking that because the dotted lines and arrows gave me the
> impression that I should understand what was the relationship between
> two different groups of texts, as if they were "words" of a "sentence"
>
> On 10/23/05, Friedrich W. Block <block@brueckner-kuehner.de> wrote:
> > dear friends,
> >
> > if you are interested in aspects of reception of digital writing I would
> > be
> > happy to read your thoughts about some questions.
> >
> > here is a brand new piece (digital writing in its pure sense, at least for
> > me)
> >
> > http://plaintext.cc
> >
> > what do you think should a reader/user at least experience with this work?
> > what should he or she know; which knowledge should be activated?
> > which kind of reception / recipient does this text need?
> >
> > these 'good old' questions follow me for a longer time, not only for
> > digital
> > but also for other forms of experimental writing / art.
> >
> > best
> >
> > friedrich
> >
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